{"id":3176,"date":"2025-09-15T13:40:44","date_gmt":"2025-09-15T05:40:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/moresourcing.com\/what-it-takes-to-join-your-first-board\/"},"modified":"2025-09-15T13:40:44","modified_gmt":"2025-09-15T05:40:44","slug":"what-it-takes-to-join-your-first-board","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/moresourcing.com\/ko\/what-it-takes-to-join-your-first-board\/","title":{"rendered":"\uccab \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\uae30 \uc704\ud574 \ud544\uc694\ud55c \uac83"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div id=\"transcript-section\">\n        <!-- let's remove the TRANSCRIPT header --><\/p>\n<p>\uc544\ub9cc\ub2e4 \ucee4\uc2dc: \uc5b4\uc11c \uc624\uc138\uc694. <em>\ub9ac\ub354\uc2ed\uc5d0 \ub300\ud55c HBR<\/em>, \uc0ac\ub840 \uc5f0\uad6c \ubc0f \uc138\uacc4 \ucd5c\uace0\uc758 \ube44\uc988\ub2c8\uc2a4 \ubc0f \uacbd\uc601 \uc804\ubb38\uac00\ub4e4\uc774 \uc9c1\uc811 \uc120\uc815\ud55c \ub300\ub2f4\uc744 \ud1b5\ud574 \uc8fc\ubcc0 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc758 \uc7a0\uc7ac\ub825\uc744 \ub04c\uc5b4\ub0bc \uc218 \uc788\ub3c4\ub85d \ub3c4\uc640\uc8fc\uc138\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc800\ub294 HBR\uc758 \uc218\uc11d \ud3b8\uc9d1\uc790\uc774\uc790 \ud504\ub85c\ub4c0\uc11c\uc778 \uc544\ub9cc\ub2e4 \ucee4\uc2dc\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\uba74 \uc601\ud5a5\ub825\uc744 \ud655\ub300\ud558\uace0 \ub9ac\ub354\uc2ed \uae30\uc220\uc744 \uac15\ud654\ud558\uba70 \ub354 \ud070 \uae30\ud68c\uc758 \ubb38\uc744 \uc5f4 \uc218\ub3c4 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>~ \uc548\uc5d0 <a href=\"https:\/\/hbr.org\/podcast\/2023\/11\/ever-consider-joining-a-board\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\uc774\ubc88 \uc5d0\ud53c\uc18c\ub4dc <em>\uc9c1\uc7a5 \uc5ec\uc131<\/em><\/a>\uc5d0\uc11c 8\uba85\uc758 \uc5ec\uc131\uc73c\ub85c\ubd80\ud130 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c \ubc1c\ud0c1\ub418\uc5c8\ub294\uc9c0, \uadf8 \uacfc\uc815\uc5d0\uc11c \ubb34\uc5c7\uc744 \ubc30\uc6e0\ub294\uc9c0, \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uadf8 \uacbd\ud5d8\uc774 \uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c \uacbd\ub825\uc744 \ud615\uc131\ud588\ub294\uc9c0\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \ub4e3\uac8c \ub429\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\ud638\uc2a4\ud2b8 Amy Bernstein\ub2d8\uc740 \ub2e4\uc74c\uacfc \uac19\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ud569\ub958\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \uc0dd\uac01\ud574 \ubcf8 \uc801\uc774 \uc788\ub098\uc694?\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hbr.org\/2023\/11\/research-how-women-improve-decision-making-on-boards\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\uc5f0\uad6c<\/a>\u00a0\uc5ec\uc131\uc758 \uc874\uc7ac\ub294 \uc774\ub4e4 \uadf8\ub8f9\uc774 \ub0b4\ub9ac\ub294 \uacb0\uc815\uc744 \ud5a5\uc0c1\uc2dc\ud0a4\uace0 \uacb0\uacfc\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \uc7ac\ubb34 \uc131\uacfc\ub97c \ud5a5\uc0c1\uc2dc\ud0a8\ub2e4\ub294 \uac83\uc744 \uc2dc\uc0ac\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hbr.org\/2019\/07\/research-board-experience-is-helping-more-women-get-ceo-jobs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CEO \uc790\uaca9\uc744 \ud5a5\uc0c1\uc2dc\ud0b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/a>, \uadf8\uac83\uc774 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc758 \ubaa9\ud45c\ub77c\uba74.<\/p>\n<p>\ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \uc544\ub9c8\ub3c4 \uc2dc\uac04\uc744 \ub0ad\ube44\ud558\ub294 \uac83\ucc98\ub7fc \ub4e4\ub9ac\uac70\ub098, \ud61c\ud0dd\uc774 \uba85\ud655\ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\uac70\ub098, \uc740\ud1f4\ub97c \uae30\ub2e4\ub9ac\uace0 \uc788\uac70\ub098, \ub6f0\uc5b4\ub4e4 \ub9cc\ud07c \uc9c0\uc2dd\uc774 \uc5c6\uac70\ub098, \uc544\ubb34\ub3c4 \ubb3b\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc558\uae30 \ub54c\ubb38\uc5d0 \ubd09\uc0ac\ub97c \uace0\ub824\ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc558\uc744 \uc218\ub3c4 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>LANI HOLLANDER: \ud2b9\ud788 \uc18c\uaddc\ubaa8 \ube44\uc601\ub9ac \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\ub97c \uc2dc\uc791\ud560 \ub54c \uac00\uc7a5 \uc911\uc694\ud55c \uac83\uc740 \uc5f4\uc815\uacfc \uad00\uc2ec\uc774\ub77c\uace0 \uc0dd\uac01\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc5f4\uc815\uacfc \uad00\uc2ec \ub355\ubd84\uc5d0 Lani\ub294 2019\ub144\uc5d0 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ud569\ub958\ud558\ub3c4\ub85d \ucd08\ub300\ubc1b\uc558\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \ub124\ud2b8\uc6cc\ud0b9\uc774 \ud575\uc2ec\uc774\uc5c8\uace0 \ube44\uc601\ub9ac \uacbd\uc601\ud559 \uc11d\uc0ac \ud559\uc704\ub97c \ucde8\ub4dd\ud55c \uac83\uc774 \uadf8\ub140\uc5d0\uac8c \ub3c4\uc6c0\uc774 \ub418\uc5c8\uc744 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>LANI HOLLANDER: \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ud569\ub958\ud560 \uc0c8\ub85c\uc6b4 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc774 \ud544\uc694\ud558\ub2e4\ub294 \uac83\uc774 \ubd84\uba85\ud574\uc84c\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub4e4\uc740 \ucc44\uc6a9\uc744 \ucc3e\uace0 \uc788\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8 \uc5ed\ud560\uc740 \uadf8\ub140\uc5d0\uac8c \uc798 \ub9de\uc558\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>LANI HOLLANDER: \uc800\ub294 \ud56d\uc0c1 \uc815\ub9d0\ub85c \uc18c\uc18d\uac10\uc744 \ub290\uaf08\uc5b4\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub140\ub294 2022\ub144 \ub9d0\uc5d0 \uc0ac\uc784\ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>LANI HOLLANDER: \uadf8\uac74 \uc8fc\ub85c \ub0b4\uac00 \uc77c\uc744 \ud558\uae30 \ub54c\ubb38\uc774\uc5d0\uc694. \uc5b4, \ub0b4 \uc778\uc0dd\uc774 \ub9ce\uc774 \ubc14\ub00c\uc5c8\uc5b4\uc694. \uacb0\ud63c\ub3c4 \ud558\uace0, \uc5c4\ub9c8\ub3c4 \ub410\uc5b4\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ud604\uc7ac \uadf8\ub140\ub294 \ub2e4\uc2dc \uc2dc\uc791\ud560 \uc900\ube44\uac00 \ub418\uc5c8\uc744 \ub54c \uc811\uadfc\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\ub294 \ube44\uc601\ub9ac \ub2e8\uccb4 \ubaa9\ub85d\uc744 \ubcf4\uad00\ud558\uace0 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\ub2f9\uc2e0\uc740 Harvard Business Review\uc758 Women at Work\ub97c \ub4e3\uace0 \uacc4\uc2ed\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uba87 \ub144\uc774 \uc9c0\ub09c \uc9c0\uae08, \uc800\ub294 20\ub144\uc758 \uacbd\ud5d8\uc744 \ub354 \uc313\uc558\uace0, \uace0\uc704 \ub9ac\ub354\uc2ed \uc5ed\ud560\uc744 \ub9e1\uc558\uc73c\uba70, \ubcf5\uc7a1\ud55c \ud504\ub85c\uc81d\ud2b8\uc5d0\uc11c \ub300\uaddc\ubaa8 \ud300\uc744 \uc774\ub04c\uc5c8\uace0, \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \ub2e4\uc2dc \uc0dd\uac01\ud558\uac8c \ub418\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>Ellen Zane\uc774 \uc800\uc640 \ud568\uaed8 8\uba85\uc758 \uc790\uc6d0\ubd09\uc0ac\uc790\ub4e4\uc758 \uc774\uc57c\uae30\ub97c \ub4e4\uc73c\uba74\uc11c \ub9e5\ub77d\uacfc \ub354 \ub9ce\uc740 \ud1b5\ucc30\ub825\uc744 \uc81c\uacf5\ud558\uae30 \uc704\ud574 \uc654\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.hsph.harvard.edu\/ecpe\/programs\/women-on-boards\/\">\uc5ec\uc131 \ud0d1\uc2b9 \ud504\ub85c\uadf8\ub7a8<\/a>\u00a0\ud558\ubc84\ub4dc \uacf5\uc911\ubcf4\uac74\ub300\ud559\uc6d0 \ub0b4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc528, \uc624\ub298 \ud568\uaed8\ud574\uc8fc\uc154\uc11c \uc815\ub9d0 \uac10\uc0ac\ub4dc\ub9bd\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ucd08\ub300\ud574 \uc8fc\uc154\uc11c \uac10\uc0ac\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uc804\uccb4 \uc0ac\uc5c5\uc5d0 \uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\uac8c \ub418\uc168\ub098\uc694?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ub300\ubd80\ubd84\uc740 \uc6b0\uc5f0\uc774\uc5d0\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc74c-\ud760.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ub0b4\uac00 \ud130\ud504\uce20 \uba54\ub514\uceec \uc13c\ud130\uc758 CEO \uc790\ub9ac\uc5d0\uc11c \ubb3c\ub7ec\ub09c\ub2e4\uace0 \ubc1c\ud45c\ud588\uc744 \ub54c, \ucda9\uaca9\uc801\uc774\uace0 \uc608\uc0c1\uce58 \ubabb\ud558\uac8c \ub0b4 \uc804\ud654\ubca8\uc774 \uc6b8\ub9ac\uae30 \uc2dc\uc791\ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \ud558.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uae30\uc5c5 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0\uc11c \ub9e1\uc744 \uc5ec\uc131\uc744 \ucc3e\ub294 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uac00 \ub9ce\uc558\ub294\ub370 \ubaa8\ub450 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc788\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<em>\ub2e4 \ud560 \uc218\uac00 \uc5c6\uc5b4<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc544\uc2dc\ub2e4\uc2dc\ud53c, Tufts Medical Center\uc758 CEO\uc9c1\uc5d0\uc11c \uc0ac\uc784\ud55c \uac83\uc740 \uc6b0\uc5f0\ud55c \uc77c\uc774\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uc774\ub294 \uadc0\ud558\uac00 \uc774\ubbf8 \ud574\ub2f9 \ubd84\uc57c\uc5d0\uc11c \ub9e4\uc6b0 \ub450\uac01\uc744 \ub098\ud0c0\ub0b4\uace0 \uc788\ub2e4\ub294 \uac83\uc744 \uc758\ubbf8\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc6b0\uc120, \uc800\ub294 \uadfc\ubb34\ud558\ub294 \ub3d9\uc548 \ud55c \uacf5\uac1c \ud68c\uc0ac \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc18d\ud574 \uc788\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc SEC \ubc0f \uae30\ud0c0 \ubd84\uc57c\uc5d0\uc11c\ub294 \uc77c\ubc18\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \uc815\uaddc\uc9c1 \uc784\uc6d0\uc774 \ub450 \uac1c \uc774\uc0c1\uc758 \uc601\ub9ac \ubaa9\uc801 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc11d\ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\ub294 \uaddc\uc815\uc774 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc601\ub9ac\uc801\uc778 \uce21\uba74\uc5d0\uc11c\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc5ec\ub7ec \uac1c\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc790, \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc774 \uadf8 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ud569\ub958\ud588\uc744 \ub54c \uadf8\uac83\uc774 \uae30\uc5c5 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uc5c5\ubb34\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\uae30 \uc704\ud55c \ub2e8\uacc4\uc5d0 \ud544\uc218\uc801\uc774\ub77c\ub294 \uac83\uc744 \uae68\ub2ec\uc558\uc2b5\ub2c8\uae4c?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ucc44\uc6a9 \ub2f4\ub2f9\uc790\uc5d0\uac8c \ubb3c\uc5b4\ubcf4\uba74 \ube44\uc601\ub9ac \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc774 \uc601\ub9ac \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\uae30 \uc704\ud55c \uc804\uc870\ub294 \uc544\ub2c8\ub77c\uace0 \uc885\uc885 \ub9d0\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ubcf4\ub4dc \ucabd\uc5d0\uc11c\ub294 \"\ucf54\ub294 \uc548\uc73c\ub85c \ub4e4\uc5b4\uac00\uace0 \uc190\uac00\ub77d\uc740 \ubc16\uc73c\ub85c \ub098\uc635\ub2c8\ub2e4\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud558\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc544, \uadf8\ub7fc \uc5b4\ub5a4 \ub300\uc0ac\ub97c \ud560 \uc218 \uc788\ub294\uc9c0 \uc54c\uc544\ubcf4\uace0\u2026<\/p>\n<p>AMY\uc640 ELLEN\uc774 \ud568\uaed8: \u2026 \uac74\ub110 \uc218 \uc5c6\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ub354 \uc9c4\ud589\ud558\uae30 \uc804\uc5d0 \ubcf4\ub4dc\uc5d0\uc11c \uc77c\uc885\uc758 101\uc744 \ud574\ubcf4\uaca0\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc870\uc9c1\uc758 \uac70\ubc84\ub10c\uc2a4\uc640 \uc790\uc120 \uc790\uc0b0\uc774\ub4e0 \uae08\uc735 \uc790\uc0b0\uc774\ub4e0 \uc790\uc0b0\uc5d0 \ub300\ud55c \uac10\ub3c5 \ubc0f \uac70\ubc84\ub10c\uc2a4\uc5d0\ub294 \ucc28\uc774\uac00 \uc788\uae30 \ub54c\ubb38\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc74c-\ud760.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc774\ub4e4 \ubaa8\ub450\uc758 \uacf5\ud1b5\uc810\uc740 \uc77c\ubc18\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \uac00\uc7a5 \uc911\uc694\ud55c \ucc45\uc784\uc774 CEO\ub97c \ucc44\uc6a9\ud558\uace0 \ud574\uace0\ud55c\ub2e4\ub294 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc9c0\uba85\uc740 \uc2e4\uc81c\ub85c CEO\uc758 \uc9c0\uba85\uc5d0 \uad00\ud55c \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc544\ub1e8. \uadf8\uac74 \ubcf4\ud1b5 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc0ac\ub78c\uc744 \uc9c0\uba85\ud558\ub294 \uc77c\uc774\uc5d0\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc544, \ub2e4\ub978 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uba64\ubc84\ub4e4\ub3c4 \uadf8\ub807\uad70\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \ub204\uac00 \uc5b4\ub5a4 \uc704\uc6d0\ud68c\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\ub294\uc9c0\u2026<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc544, \uadf8\ub807\uad70\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \u2026 \uc911, \ub2e4\ub978 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uad6c\uc131\uc6d0 \uc911.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc544, \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc740 \uc790\uce58\uad8c\uc744 \uac16\uace0 \uacc4\uc2dc\uad70\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc740 \uc790\uce58\uc790\uc778\uad70\uc694. \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: (\uc6c3\uc74c)<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc740 \uc2ec\uc9c0\uc5b4 \uc790\uc2e0\uc5d0\uac8c \uae09\uc5ec\ub97c \uc778\uc0c1\ud558\uae30\ub3c4 \ud558\ub354\uad70\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc624, \ub300\ub2e8\ud574\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc7ac\ubb34 \uc704\uc6d0\ud68c\ub294 Patti Neuhold-Ravikumar\uac00 \uc13c\ud2b8\ub7f4 \uc624\ud074\ub77c\ud638\ub9c8 \ub300\ud559\uad50 \ucd1d\uc7a5\uc73c\ub85c \uc7ac\uc9c1\ud558\ub294 \ub3d9\uc548 5\uac1c\uc758 \ube44\uc601\ub9ac \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0\uc11c \uac01\uac01 \ud65c\ub3d9\uc744 \uc2dc\uc791\ud55c \uacf3\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>PATTI NEUHOLD-RAVIKUMAR: \uc7ac\ubb34\uc704\uc6d0\ud68c\uc5d0\uc11c \uc77c\ud558\ub294 \uac83\ub3c4 \uad1c\ucc2e\uc9c0\ub9cc \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc788\uc73c\uba74 \uc5ec\uae30\uc800\uae30 \ub3cc\uc544\ub2e4\ub2c8\uace0 \uc2f6\uc5b4\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc804\ubb38 \ubd84\uc57c\uc5d0 \uba38\ubb3c\uba74\uc11c \uc775\uc219\ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc740 \uc0b0\uc5c5\uc73c\ub85c \uc9c4\ucd9c\ud558\uace0 \uc2f6\ub2e4\uba74 \uadf8\uac83\ub3c4 \uc120\ud0dd \uc0ac\ud56d\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>JOLENE MORSE: \uc81c\uac00 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uc9c1\ucc45\uc744 \ub9e1\uc73c\uba70 \uc815\ub9d0\ub85c \ud558\uace0 \uc2f6\uc5c8\ub358 \uac83\uc740 \uacc4\uc18d\ud574\uc11c \ubc30\uc6b0\uace0 \uc81c \uc790\uc2e0\uc758 \uc0ac\uace0\ubc29\uc2dd\uc5d0 \ub3c4\uc804\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc774\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<em>\ud760, \uc544\ub2c8, \uc0ac\uc2e4 \ub0b4 \ub9d0 \uac19\uc9c0\ub294 \uc54a\uc740\ub370<\/em>.\u00a0<em>\uc544, \uadf8\uac74 \ub0b4\uac00 \uad00\uc2ec\uc744 \uac00\uc9c8 \ub9cc\ud55c \ub0b4\uc6a9\uc774\uad6c\ub098<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc778\ud130\ubdf0 \uc911 \uadf8\ub140\uac00 \ucde8\ud55c \uc790\uc138\ub294 \ub2e4\uc74c\uacfc \uac19\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>JOLENE MORSE: \ub9ce\uc740 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc774 \uc704\ud5d8\uc744 \ucd5c\uc6b0\uc120\uc73c\ub85c \uc0dd\uac01\ud558\ub358 \uc2dc\uc808\uc774\uc5c8\uc9c0\ub9cc \uadf8\ub4e4\uc740 \uae4a\uc774 \uc788\ub294 \uc9c0\uc2dd\uc774 \uc5c6\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<em>\uc774\uac83\uc774 \uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c \ub0b4 \uc804\ub7b5\uc5d0 \uac00\uce58\ub97c \ub354\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\ub098\uc694?<\/em>\u201d\uadf8\ub798\uc11c \uc800\uc5d0\uac8c\ub294 \uadf8\uac83\uc5d0 \uad00\ud55c \ub300\ud654\uc5d0 \uc815\ub9d0 \ub2e4\ub978 \uad00\uc810\uc744 \uac00\uc838\ub2e4\uc8fc\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub798\uc11c Ellen, \uc800\ub294 Jolene\uc758 \uc774\uc57c\uae30\ub97c \ub4e3\uace0 \uc2a4\uc2a4\ub85c\uc5d0\uac8c \ub9d0\ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<em>\uc815\ub9d0?<\/em>\u00a0\uadf8\uac8c \uc791\ub3d9\ud558\ub294 \ubc29\uc2dd\uc778\uac00\uc694?<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc81c\uc778: \uc544\ub2c8\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uc88b\uc544\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: (\uc6c3\uc74c) \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0, \uadf8\ub807\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc544\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uc11c\ube44\uc2a4\ub97c \uc6d0\ud558\ub294 \ub9ce\uc740 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc774 \uadf8\uac83\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \ubc18\ub300\ub85c \uc0dd\uac01\ud558\ub294 \uac83 \uac19\uc544\uc694. \uadf8\ub4e4\uc740 \uc790\uc2e0\uc774 \uc6d0\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc774 \ubb34\uc5c7\uc778\uc9c0 \uc0dd\uac01\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc74c-\ud760.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc6b0\ub9ac\ub294 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uac00 \uc6b0\ub9ac\uac00 \uc6d0\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uacfc \uc77c\uce58\ud558\ub294 \uae30\ud68c\ub97c \uac00\uc9c8 \uc218 \uc788\ub2e4\ub294 \uc810\uc744 \uc774\ud574\ud558\uace0 \uc778\ub0b4\uc2ec\uc744 \uac00\uc838\uc57c \ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub7ec\uba74 \ub204\uac00 \uc77c\uce58\ub97c \uc774\ub8e8\ub098\uc694?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc815\ub9d0 \ud765\ubbf8\ub86d\ub124\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc800\ub294 \ud56d\uc0c1 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc5d0\uac8c \uc774\ub807\uac8c \ub9d0\ud574\uc694. \u201c\ube44\ud589\uae30\uc5d0\uc11c \uc544\uce68 \uc2dd\uc0ac\ub97c \ud560 \ub54c \uc606\uc5d0 \ub204\uac00 \uc549\uc544 \uc788\ub294\uc9c0 \uc804\ud600 \uc54c \uc218 \uc5c6\uc5b4\uc694.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc560\ub098 \ub9e4\ub2dd(Anna Manning)\uc740 \uadf8\ub807\uac8c \uc790\uc2e0\uc758 \uad50\ud68c\uc640 \uc5f0\uacb0\ub41c \ucd08\ub4f1\ud559\uad50 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc624\uac8c \ub418\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ANNA MANNING: \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \ucc98\uc74c \ud559\uad50 \uc704\uc6d0\ud68c\uc5d0 \ud569\ub958\ud588\uc744 \ub54c \uc800\ub294 \uc5b4\ub9b0\uc774 \uad50\uc721\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \uc544\ubb34\uac83\ub3c4 \ubab0\ub790\uace0 \uc6a9\uc5b4\uc640 \uc57d\uc5b4\uc758 \uc591\ub9cc \uc54c\uace0 \uc788\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub7ec\ub2e4\uac00 \uadf8\ub140\ub294 \ubcf8\uc5c5\uc5d0\uc11c \uc804\ub7b5 \uc5ed\ud560\uc744 \ub9e1\uc544 \uc6b0\uc5f0\ud788 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uac00 \uc2e4\uc81c\ub85c \ud65c\ub3d9\ud558\ub294 \ubaa8\uc2b5\uc744 \ubcfc \uc218 \uc788\uac8c \ub418\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ANNA MANNING: \uadf8\ub4e4 \uc911 \ub9ce\uc740 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc774 \ub300\ud615 \uc740\ud589\uc758 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\ucc98\ub7fc \uc218\ub144 \ub3d9\uc548 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ubab8\ub2f4\uc544\uc654\uace0 \uc644\uc804\ud788 \ub2e4\ub978 \ubd84\uc57c\uc5d0\uc11c \uc628 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc774 \"\uc7a0\uae50\ub9cc\uc694. \ubb50? \uc544\uc2dc\ub2e4\uc2dc\ud53c, \uc774 \ub80c\uc988\uc5d0\uc11c \uc774\uac83\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \uc0dd\uac01\ud574\uc57c \ud558\uac70\ub098 \uc800 \ub80c\uc988\uc5d0\uc11c \uc0dd\uac01\ud574\uc57c \ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud558\ub294 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc744 \ubcf4\uc558\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<em>\uc544, \uadf8\ub798.<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: Ellen, Anna, Anna\uc758 \uacbd\ud5d8\uc740 \ubaa8\ub4e0 \ucd08\ubcf4\uc790\uac00 \uacbd\ud5d8\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc5b8\uc81c \ubc1c\uc5b8\ud574\uc57c \ud558\ub294\uc9c0, \uc5b8\uc81c \ub9d0\ud558\uc9c0 \ub9d0\uc544\uc57c \ud558\ub294\uc9c0, \uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c \ud310\ub2e8\ud558\uace0 \uc870\uc815\ud574\uc57c \ud558\ub294\uc9c0\uc5d0 \ub300\ud55c \uc9c8\ubb38\uc744 \uc790\uc8fc \ubc1b\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc5d0\uac8c\ub294 \ubb34\uc2a8 \uc77c\uc774 \uc77c\uc5b4\ub098\uace0 \uc788\ub294\uc9c0 \uae4a\uc774 \uc774\ud574\ud574\uc57c \ud560 \ucc45\uc784\uc774 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uae4a\uc774 \uc774\ud574\ud558\uae30 \uc704\ud574\uc11c\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc74c-\ud760.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ubc18\ubcf5\ud574\uc11c\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc81c\ubcf4\ud55c\ub2e4\uace0 \ud574\uc11c \uc5ec\ub7ec\ubd84\uc758 \ub9d0\uc744 \ub4e4\uc744 \uc218 \uc788\ub2e4\ub294 \ubcf4\uc7a5\uc740 \uc5c6\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>LINDSAY SCHWARTZ: \ubd80\uc758\uc7a5\ub3c4 \ub0a8\uc790\uc600\uace0, \uc9c1\uc804\uc758\uc7a5\ub3c4 \ub0a8\uc790\uc600\ub294\ub370, \uc5b4\ub290 \uc21c\uac04 \uc804\ubb34\uc774\uc0ac\uac00 \ub0a8\uc790\uc5ec\uc11c \ud55c\ub9c8\ub514\ub3c4 \ud558\uae30 \ud798\ub4e4\uc5c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<em>\uc544, \uc54c\uaca0\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub140\uc5d0\uac8c \uc774\uc57c\uae30\ud560 \uacf5\uac04\uc744 \uc8fc\uc9c0\ub294 \uc54a\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ub9ce\uc740 \uc5ec\uc131\ub4e4\uc774 \ubc29\uc744 \uc77d\ub294 \ub370 \ub610 \ub2e4\ub978 \uce21\uba74\uc774 \uc788\ub2e4\uace0 Lindsay\ub294 \ub9d0\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ubc14\ub85c \uc790\uc2e0\uc758 \ub9d0\ud22c\ub97c \uc0b4\ud3b4\ubcf4\ub294 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>LINDSAY SCHWARTZ: \uc800\ub294 \ud56d\uc0c1 \"\uc544, \ub0b4 \ub9d0\uc774 \uac1c\uc18c\ub9ac \uac19\uc544?\"\ub77c\uace0 \uc0dd\uac01\ud588\uc5b4\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc800 \uc5ed\uc2dc \uc911\uc694\ud558\uac8c \uc0dd\uac01\ud558\ub294 \uac83 \uc911 \ud558\ub098\uac00 \uba58\ud1a0\ub97c \ucc3e\ub294 \uc77c\uc774\uc5d0\uc694.\u00a0<em>\uae00\uc384, \ub0b4 \uc0dd\uac01\uc5d4 \uadf8 \uc0ac\ub78c\uc774 \uac1c\uc790\uc2dd\ucc98\ub7fc \ud589\ub3d9\ud558\ub294 \uac83 \uac19\uc9c0\ub294 \uc54a\uc740\ub370.<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>\uc81c \uc0dd\uac01\uc5d0\ub294 \uce58\ub8cc\uc0ac\ub3c4 \uc788\uc5c8\uace0, \ubaa8\ub4e0 \uc0ac\ub78c\uc774 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc774 \ub9d0\ud558\uac70\ub098 \ub3d9\uc758\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc744 \uc88b\uc544\ud558\uc9c0\ub294 \uc54a\uc744 \uac83\uc774\uace0, \uadf8\uac83\uc774 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc774 \ud2c0\ub838\ub2e4\ub294 \ub73b\ub3c4 \uc544\ub2c8\uace0, \uadf8\ub4e4\uc774 \ud2c0\ub838\ub2e4\ub294 \ub73b\ub3c4 \uc544\ub2d0 \uc218\ub3c4 \uc788\ub2e4\ub294 \uac83\uc744 \uae68\ub2ec\uc558\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \ucc98\uc74c\uc5d0\ub294 \uadf8\uac83\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \uac71\uc815\ud560 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc774\ub7ec\ud55c \uc885\ub958\uc758 \uc790\uccb4 \ubaa8\ub2c8\ud130\ub9c1\uc740 \uc0c1\uc7a5 \uae30\uc5c5\uc758 \uc774\uc0ac\ub4e4 \uc0ac\uc774\uc5d0\uc11c \ud754\ud788 \ubcfc \uc218 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hbr.org\/2023\/01\/how-women-on-boards-navigate-the-warmth-competence-line\">\uc5ec\uc131 \ud0d1\uc2b9\uc790\uac00 \"\ub530\ub73b\ud568-\uc5ed\ub7c9\" \ub77c\uc778\uc744 \ud0d0\uc0c9\ud558\ub294 \ubc29\ubc95<\/a>, \ub77c\uc778\uc740 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc774 \uc6b0\ub9ac\uc5d0\uac8c \uae30\ub300\ud558\ub294 \uacf5\uac10\uacfc \uc9c1\uc811\uc131\uc758 \uc12c\uc138\ud55c \uade0\ud615\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc54c\ub798\uc2a4\uce74 \ub304\uc2a4 \uc2dc\uc5b4\ud130(Alaska Dance Theatre)\uc758 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \ud68c\uc7a5\uc778 \ub85c\ub9ac \ubb34\uc5b4(Lori Moore)\ub294 \ub2e4\ub978 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc774 \uacb0\uc815\uc744 \ub0b4\ub9b4 \ub54c\uae4c\uc9c0 \uc911\uc694\ud55c \uacb0\uc815\uc744 \ub0b4\ub9ac\uae30 \uc704\ud574 \uae30\ub2e4\ub9ac\uba74\uc11c \ub610 \ub2e4\ub978 \uc804\uc220\uc744 \uc0ac\uc6a9\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>LORI MOORE: \uc790\uc2e0\uc758 \uc758\uacac\uc744 \uac15\uc694\ud558\ub294 \uac74 \uc88b\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc544\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5ed\ub7c9 \ub300 \ub530\ub73b\ud568 \uc720\ud615\uc758 \uc5ed\ub3d9\uc131\uc744 \ub2e4\ub8e8\ub294 \ub2e4\uc591\ud55c \ubc29\ubc95\uc744 \uc5f0\uc2b5\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\uc5c8\uae30 \ub54c\ubb38\uc5d0 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc774 \uc2e4\uc81c\ub85c \ub3c4\uc6c0\uc774 \ub418\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc5ec\uc131\ub4e4\uc774 \uc774\ub7ec\ud55c \uc804\uc220\uc5d0 \uc758\uc874\ud558\ub294 \uc774\uc720 \uc911 \ud558\ub098\ub294 \uaddc\ubc94\uacfc \uae30\ub300\uce58\uac00 \ubb34\uc5c7\uc778\uc9c0 \uc124\uba85\ud558\ub294 \uc628\ubcf4\ub529\uc774 \uc5c6\uae30 \ub54c\ubb38\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ANNA MANNING: \"\uc5ec\uae30\uc5d0 \ud68c\uc758 \uc548\uac74\uc774 \uc788\uace0, \uc11c\ub958\uac00 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uac00\uc138\uc694.\"\ub77c\ub294 \uc2dd\uc774\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ub2f9\uc2e0\ub3c4 \ube44\uc2b7\ud55c \uc785\uc7a5\uc5d0 \uc788\ub2e4\uba74, \uccab \ubc88\uc9f8 \ud68c\uc758\uc5d0 \uc5b8\uc81c \uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c \uae30\uc5ec\ud560 \uac83\uc778\uc9c0 \uba85\ud655\ud558\uac8c \ucc38\uc11d\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\ub3c4\ub85d \uc758\uc7a5\uc5d0\uac8c \ubb38\uc758\ud558\uc2ed\uc2dc\uc624.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \ub0b4\uc5d0\uc11c, \uc5b4, \uacbd\uc601\uc9c4 \ub0b4\uc5d0\uc11c \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc640 \uacbd\uc601\uc9c4\uc758 \uad00\uacc4 \ubaa8\ub450\uc5d0\uc11c \uadf8\ub7f0 \ubb38\ud654\ub97c \uc774\ud574\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc774 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc758 \uc784\ubb34\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ub530\ub77c\uc11c \ub2e4\ub978 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uad6c\uc131\uc6d0\uc744 \ubd88\ub7ec\uc11c \uc790\uc2e0\uc744 \uc18c\uac1c\ud558\uace0 \"\ub098\uc5d0\uac8c \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uc790\ub9ac\ub97c \uc81c\uc548\ubc1b\uc558\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uc774 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uac00 \uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c \uc6b4\uc601\ub418\ub294\uc9c0 \uadc0\ud558\uc758 \uc758\uacac\uc744 \ub4e3\uace0 \uc2f6\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc740 \uc804\ud600 \ubb38\uc81c\uac00 \ub418\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uc758\uc7a5, \uc9c0\uba85 \ub610\ub294 \uac70\ubc84\ub10c\uc2a4 \ucc45\uc784\uc790 \ub4f1 \uadc0\ud558\ub97c \ucc44\uc6a9\ud558\ub294 \uc0ac\ub78c\uc774 \ub204\uad6c\ub4e0\uc9c0\uc5d0\uac8c \"\uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc758 \ub2e4\ub978 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uacfc \uc774\uc57c\uae30\ud558\uace0 \uc2f6\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc740 \uc804\ud600 \ubb38\uc81c\uac00 \ub418\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc544, \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uadf8 \uc0ac\ub78c\uc774 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc744 \uc704\ud574 \uc5f0\uacb0\ud574 \uc904 \uac70\uc608\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\uac8c \uc791\ub3d9\ud558\ub294 \ubc29\uc2dd\uc774\uc5d0\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc74c-\ud760.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc219\uc81c\ub97c \ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc774 \uc911\uc694\ud574\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc900\ube44\ub97c \ud558\ub824\uba74\u2026 \uc601\ub9ac\ub4e0 \ube44\uc601\ub9ac\ub4e0 \ubaa8\ub4e0 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0\ub294 \ubcf4\ub4dc\ubd81\uc774 \uc788\uace0 \uc77d\uc5b4\uc57c \ud560 \uc790\ub8cc\uac00 \uc788\uc73c\ubbc0\ub85c \uc900\ube44\ud574\uc57c \ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc219\uc81c \uc598\uae30\uac00 \ub098\uc640\uc11c \ub9d0\uc778\ub370, Adelle Wapnick\uc740 \uc7ac\ub2e8 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ud569\ub958\ud55c \ud6c4 \ub9ce\uc740 \uc77c\uc744 \ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ADELLE WAPNICK: \uadf8\ub798\uc11c \uc800\ub294 \"\ub124, \uadf8\ub807\uac8c \ud558\uac8c \ub418\uc5b4 \uc815\ub9d0 \uae30\uc069\ub2c8\ub2e4.\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \uadf8\ub140\ub294 \ub450 \uac00\uc9c0 \uc774\uc720\ub85c \uc544\ub3d9 \uc751\uae09 \uce58\ub8cc\ub77c\ub294 \ud2b9\uc815 \uc804\ubb38 \ubd84\uc57c\uc5d0 \ub2a5\uc219\ud574\uc57c \ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub798\uc57c\ub9cc \uc9c0\uc2dd\uc744 \ubc14\ud0d5\uc73c\ub85c \ub300\uc911\uc5d0\uac8c \ub9c8\ucf00\ud305\uacfc \uc790\uae08 \uc870\ub2ec\uc744 \ud560 \uc218 \uc788\uc5c8\uace0, \ud604\uc7ac\ub294 10\uba85\uc73c\ub85c \uc131\uc7a5\ud55c \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\ub97c \ud1b5\ud574 \ub0b4\ubd80\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \uc601\ud5a5\ub825\uc744 \ud0a4\uc6b8 \uc218 \uc788\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ADELLE WAPNICK: \uc800\ub294 \uc815\ub9d0 \ub9ce\uc740 \ucc45\uc744 \uc77d\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: Anna\ub294 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc644\uc804\ud788 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\ub294 \ub610 \ub2e4\ub978 \ubd80\ubd84\uc740 \uac08\ub4f1\uc774\ub098 \uc81c\uc548\uc758 \uc804\uccb4 \uadf8\ub9bc\uc744 \uc885\ud569\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc784\uc744 \ubc1c\uacac\ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ANNA MANNING: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uac00\ub054 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc740 \uc194\uc9c1\ud558\uac8c \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc774 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc788\uae30 \ub54c\ubb38\uc5d0 \uc790\ub3d9\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \uc870\uae08 \ubb34\uc12d\ub2e4\uace0 \uc0dd\uac01\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub798\uc11c \uc800\ub294 \ud559\uad50 \uc804\uccb4\uc5d0\uc11c \uad50\uc9c1\uc6d0\ub4e4\uacfc \uc88b\uc740 \uad00\uacc4\ub97c \ub9fa\uc73c\ub824\uace0 \ub178\ub825\ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uadf8\ub7ec\uba74 \ub098\ub294 \ub3cc\uc544\uac00\uc11c \"\uc74c, \uc601\uad6d\uc778 \ub9ac\ub354\uc640 \uc598\uae30\ub97c \ub098\ub234\uc5b4\uc694. \uadf8\ub140\uac00 \uc6b0\ub9ac\uc5d0\uac8c \ud544\uc694\ud558\ub2e4\uace0 \uc0dd\uac01\ud558\ub294 \uac8c \ubc14\ub85c \uc774\uac83\uc774\uc8e0. \uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c \ud558\uba74 \uadf8\ub807\uac8c \ud560 \uc218 \uc788\uc744\uae4c\uc694?\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<em>\uadf8\uac8c \uc2e4\uc81c\ub85c \ud6a8\uacfc\uac00 \uc788\uc5c8\ub098\uc694?<\/em>\u00a0\uc870\uc9c1 \ub0b4\uc5d0\uc11c \uadc0\ud558\uac00 \uadc0\ub97c \uae30\uc6b8\uc774\uac70\ub098 \ub4e3\uace0 \ud638\uae30\uc2ec\uc744 \uac00\uc9c8 \uc218 \uc788\ub294 \ub2e4\uc591\ud55c \uc5f0\ub77d\ucc98\ub97c \uac16\uace0 \uc788\uc73c\uba74 \uc804\uccb4 \uadf8\ub9bc\uc744 \uacb0\ucf54 \ubcfc \uc218 \uc5c6\uc744 \uc218\ub3c4 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0. \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \ucd5c\uc18c\ud55c \ub2e4\uc74c \uc0ac\ud56d\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \uc54c\uc544\ubcfc \uc218\ub294 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<em>\ub0b4\uac00 \ub9d0\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc774 \ub9de\ub098\uc694?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uae30\uc5c5 \uc804\ub7b5\uc744 \uc5f0\uad6c\ud558\ub294 \ub450 \uad50\uc218\uc5d0 \ub530\ub974\uba74 Anna\uac00 \uc2e4\uc81c\ub85c \uc5ec\uc131\uc744 \uad6c\ubcc4\ud558\ub294 \uc790\uc728\uc131\uacfc \ud569\ub9ac\uc131\uc744 \ubcf4\uc5ec\uc8fc\ub294 \uc0ac\ub840\ub77c\uace0 \ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hbr.org\/2023\/11\/research-how-women-improve-decision-making-on-boards\">\uae30\uc0ac<\/a>\u00a0\uadf8\ub4e4\uc740 \uc37c\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\ubcf4\ub4dc\uc5d0\uc11c \ubd09\uc0ac\ud558\ub294 \ub370 \uc5bc\ub9c8\ub098 \ub9ce\uc740 \uc2dc\uac04\uc774 \uac78\ub9ac\ub098\uc694?<\/p>\n<p>ADELLE WAPNICK: \ubaa8\ub4e0 \uc2dc\uac04\uc744 \uc815\ub9ac\ud574\uc57c \ud55c\ub2e4\uba74 \ud55c \ub2ec\uc5d0 \ud558\ub8e8 \uc815\ub3c4 \ubcf4\ub0bc \uac83 \uac19\uc544\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>ANNA MANNING: 2\uc8fc\uac04 \uadfc\ubb34\ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \ub300\uac1c\ub294 \uc800\ub141\uc5d0 \ub05d\ub098\uac70\ub098, \ucd9c\uadfc \uc804 \uc544\uce68\uc5d0 \ub05d\ub098\uac70\ub098, \uc8fc\ub9d0\uc5d0 \ub05d\ub098\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>LANI HOLLANDER: \uc544\ub9c8 \ucc98\uc74c \uc2dc\uc791\ud560 \ub54c\ub294 \uc77c\uc8fc\uc77c\uc5d0 \ucd5c\ub300 \ud55c \uc2dc\uac04 \uc815\ub3c4 \uc77c\ud588\ub358 \uac83 \uac19\uc544\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>PATTI NEUHOLD-RAVIKUMAR: \ub530\ub77c\uc11c \uc81c\uac00 5\uac1c\uc758 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc18d\ud574 \uc788\ub2e4\uba74, \ud55c \ub2ec \uc911 \uc5b4\ub290 \uc2dc\uc810\uc5d0 5\uac1c\uc758 \uc7a5\uc18c\uc5d0 \uc788\uc5b4\uc57c \ud558\ub294 \ucc45\uc784\uc744 \ubc1b\uc544\ub4e4\uc778 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc0c8\ub85c\uc6b4 \ubaa9\uc18c\ub9ac Amber Hall\uc774 \uc654\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMBER HALL: \uc81c\uac00 \uba87 \ub144 \uc804 \uc5b8\uc820\uac00 \uae30\uc5c5 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ud569\ub958\ud558\uace0 \uc2f6\ub2e4\uace0 \ub9d0\ud588\uc744 \ub54c, \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ud569\ub958\ud558\uae30 \uc704\ud574\uc11c\ub294 \uc55e\uc73c\ub85c \ud574\uc57c \ud560 \uc77c\uc744 \ud574\uc57c \ud55c\ub2e4\ub294 \uac83\uc744 \uc54c\uc558\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub140\ub294 \ud68c\uc0ac\uc5d0\uc11c \uc81c\ud488 \ub514\uc790\uc778 \ubc0f \uac1c\ubc1c\uc744 \uc774\ub04c\uace0 \uc788\uc73c\uba70 Northwestern \ub300\ud559\uc6d0 \ud504\ub85c\uadf8\ub7a8\uc758 \uc774\uc0ac\uc774\uae30\ub3c4 \ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMBER HALL: \uc6b0\ub9ac\ub294 \uc77c\ub144\uc5d0 \ub450 \ubc88 \ub9cc\ub0a9\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: Ellen, Amber\ub294 \uc790\uc2e0\uc774 \ubcf8 \ubc14\uc5d0 \ub530\ub974\uba74 \uc601\ud5a5\ub825\uc744 \ubbf8\uce58\ub824\uba74 \uae30\ubcf8 \uc694\uad6c \uc0ac\ud56d\ubcf4\ub2e4 \ud6e8\uc52c \ub354 \ub9ce\uc740 \uc77c\uc744 \ud574\uc57c \ud55c\ub2e4\uace0 \ub9d0\ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc74c-\ud760.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub807\ub2e4\uba74 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\ub294 \ub370 \uc18c\uc694\ub418\ub294 \uc2dc\uac04\uacfc \ub178\ub825, \uc989 \ud5cc\uc2e0\uc744 \uc5b4\ub5bb\uac8c \ud604\uc2e4\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \uc778\uc2dd\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\ub098\uc694?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ucc44\uc6a9\ub2f4\ub2f9\uc790\ub4e4\uc740 \ubaa8\ub97c \uac70\uc608\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc5b4-\ud5c8.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ubaa8\uc9d1 \ub2f4\ub2f9\uc790\uac00 \uc5ec\ub7ec\ubd84\uc5d0\uac8c \ub9d0\ud560 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ubaa8\uc9d1 \ub2f4\ub2f9\uc790\uac00 \uc788\uc73c\uba74 \uc5b4, \uadf8\ub4e4\uc740 \"1\ub144\uc5d0 4\ubc88\uc758 \ud68c\uc758\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ud558\ub8e8 \ubc18\uc774\uba74 \uc5b4\ub514\ub4e0\uc9c0 \ub0a0\uc544\uac00\uba74 \uac70\uae30\ub85c \uac11\ub2c8\ub2e4.\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud560 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0, \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc544\ub2c8\uba74 Zoom, \uc9c0\uae08\uc740 Zoom\uc744 \ub9ce\uc774 \uc0ac\uc6a9\ud574\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ub530\ub77c\uc11c Zoom\uc740 \ubaa8\ub4e0 \uac83\uc744 \ud6e8\uc52c \ub354 \uc27d\uac8c \ub9cc\ub4e4\uc5b4 \uc8fc\uc5b4\uc57c \ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc81c\uc778: \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \ub124.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc870\uc9c1\uc73c\ub85c\uc11c \uadf8\ub4e4\uc740 \ub354 \uad81\ud54d\ud55c \uacbd\ud5a5\uc774 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \ub124.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \u2026 \ub9ce\uc740 \uc77c\uc744 \ucc98\ub9ac\ud558\uae30 \uc704\ud574 \uc790\uc2e0\uc758 \uc5c5\ubb34\uc5d0 \ucc45\uc784\uc744 \uc9c0\ub294 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\ub85c \uad6c\uc131\ub41c \ucd95\uad6c\uc7a5\uc744 \uac16\uace0 \uc788\ub294 \uc601\ub9ac \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\ubcf4\ub2e4\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \uc57d\uc18d\uc740 \ud68c\uc758 \uadf8 \uc774\uc0c1\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc900\ube44\uac00 \uc788\uace0 \ub300\ud654\uac00 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uacbd\uacc4\ub97c \uc815\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\ub098\uc694?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc77c\ubc18\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \uadf8\ub807\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \ud5c8.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub7f4 \uc218 \uc5c6\uc5b4\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc6b0\ub9ac\uac00 \ub4e4\uc740 \uc5ec\uc131 \uc911 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uc5c5\ubb34\uc5d0 \ub300\ud55c \ubcf4\uc218\ub97c \ubc1b\ub294 \uc5ec\uc131\uc740 \ub2e8 \ud55c \uba85\ubfd0\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>JOLENE MORSE: \uc57d\uac04\uc758 \ubcf4\uc0c1\uc744 \ubc1b\uc73c\uba74 \uc54c\ub2e4\uc2dc\ud53c \ud798\ub4e0 \ud558\ub8e8\ub97c \ubcf4\ub0b4\uace0 \uc788\uace0 (\uc6c3\uc74c) \uc815\ub9d0 \ubc14\uc05c \ud558\ub8e8\ub97c \ubcf4\ub0c8\uace0 4\uc2dc\uac04 \ub3d9\uc548 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc11d\ud574\uc57c \ud55c\ub2e4\uba74 \ub54c\ub85c\ub294 \ud544\uc694\ud55c \uc57d\uac04\uc758 \ucd94\uac00 \ub3d9\uae30\ub97c \uc5bb\uc744 \uc218 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \uc11c\ube44\uc2a4\ub294 \uac04\uc811\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \uc218\uc775\uc131\uc774 \uc788\uc744 \uc218 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>LINDSAY SCHWARTZ: \uc81c\uac00 \uacbd\ud5d8\ud55c \ub178\ucd9c\uacfc \uc804\ubb38\uc131 \uac1c\ubc1c, \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc81c\uac00 \ub9cc\ub4e0 \uc5f0\uacb0\uc740 \uc81c\uac00 \ucee8\uc124\ud305\uc744 \ud560 \uc218 \uc788\uac8c \ub41c \ub370 \uc815\ub9d0 \ud070 \ub3c4\uc6c0\uc774 \ub418\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ub300\ud559\uc6d0 \ud504\ub85c\uadf8\ub7a8\uc758 \uc774\uc0ac\uc778 Amber\ub294 \uc790\uc2e0\uc758 \ucc38\uc5ec\uac00 \ubbf8\ub798\uc5d0 \uacb8\uc784 \uac15\uc0ac\ub85c \uc77c\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\ub294 \uc790\ub9ac\ub97c \ub9c8\ub828\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\uae30\ub97c \ubc14\ub77c\uace0 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc774\ub7ec\ud55c \uc778\ub9e5\uc774 \uadf8\ub140\uc758 \uacbd\ub825\uc744 \ub2e4\ub978 \ubc29\uc2dd\uc73c\ub85c \uc131\uc7a5\uc2dc\ud0a4\ub294 \ub370 \ub3c4\uc6c0\uc774 \ub420 \uc218\ub3c4 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMBER HALL: \uc81c\uac00 \uc5c5\uacc4 \uc804\ubc18\uc5d0 \uac78\uccd0 \uc54c\uace0 \uc788\ub294 \uc0ac\ub78c\uc744 \ud1b5\ud574 \uc81c \ub124\ud2b8\uc6cc\ud06c\uac00 \ub354 \ub113\uc5b4\uc84c\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc5d8\ub80c, \uc81c\uc758\ub97c \ubc1b\uc740 \uc21c\uac04 \uadf8\uac8c \ub9c8\uce58 \uc77c\uc790\ub9ac \uc81c\uc548 \uac19\uc740 \uac74\uac00\uc694?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub4e4\uc740 \uc5b4\ub290 \uc815\ub3c4 \ud559\uae30\ud45c\ub97c \uc791\uc131\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uc544.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ub0a0\uc9dc\uac00 \uc77c\uce58\ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc73c\uba74 \uc885\uc885 \ud0ac\ub7ec\uac00 \ub418\uae30 \ub54c\ubb38\uc774\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc5b4-\ud5c8.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc601\ub9ac \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\ub77c\uba74 \"\uc774\uac83\uc774 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc758 \ubcf4\uc0c1\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud558\uace0, \"\uc6b0\ub9ac\ub294 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc774 \uac10\uc0ac\uc704\uc6d0\ud68c\ub098 \uc778\uc0ac\uc704\uc6d0\ud68c\uc5d0 \uc549\uae30\ub97c \ubc14\ub78d\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uadf8\uac83\uc774 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc774 \ud558\uace0 \uc2f6\uc740 \uc77c\uacfc \uc77c\uce58\ud569\ub2c8\uae4c?\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud560 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uae00\uc384\uc694, \uadf8\ub7ec\uba74 \uad11\uace0\ub3c4 \ud611\uc0c1\ud560 \uc218 \uc5c6\uace0 \ub2ec\ub825\ub3c4 \ud611\uc0c1\ud560 \uc218 \uc5c6\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc81c\uc778: \ub9de\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: ...\ud611\uc0c1 \uac00\ub2a5\ud55c \uac8c \ubb34\uc5c7\uc778\uac00\uc694?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uac70\uc758 \uc544\ubb34\uac83\ub3c4 \uc544\ub2c8\uc5d0\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uc88b\uc544\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ub098\ub294 \ud55c \ubcf4\ub4dc\uc5d0 \ub0b4\uac00 \uc18d\ud55c \ubcf4\ub4dc\uc5d0 \"\ub098\ub294 \ucf54\uce58\ub97c \ud0c0\uace0 \uc804\uad6d\uc744 \ube44\ud589\ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc744 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ub098\ub294 \ub108\ubb34 \ub299\uc5c8\uae30 \ub54c\ubb38\uc5d0 \ub354 \uc774\uc0c1 \uadf8\ub807\uac8c \ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc744 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ub098\ub294 \uc77c\ub4f1\uc11d\ub9cc \uac11\ub2c8\ub2e4. \uac00\uc838\uac00\uac70\ub098 \ub5a0\ub098\uc138\uc694.\"\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud588\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uc544.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub7fc, \uadf8\ub807\uac8c \uc8fc\ubcc0\ubd80 \ubb38\uc81c\uc5d0 \uad00\ud574 \ud611\uc0c1\uc744 \ud560 \uc218 \uc788\uac8c \ub418\ub2e4\ub2c8\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \ub124.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \u2026 \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \uc77c\ubc18\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \ubcf4\uc0c1\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \uc804\ud600 \ud611\uc0c1\ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\uace0 \ub0a0\uc9dc\ub3c4 \ud611\uc0c1\ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ub9d9\uc18c\uc0ac, \uc800\ub294 \ub204\uad70\uac00\uc758 \ub208\uc744 \ub611\ubc14\ub85c \ubc14\ub77c\ubcf4\uba70 \u201c\ub098\ub294 \ucf54\uce58\ub97c \ud0c8 \uc218 \uc5c6\uc5b4\uc694.\u201d\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\ub294 \ub0a0\uc744 \ub108\ubb34\ub098 \uace0\ub300\ud558\uace0 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc81c\uc778: (\uc6c3\uc74c)<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uadf8\ub4e4\uc774 \ud3ed\uc18c\ud558\uc9c0 \uc54a\ub3c4\ub85d \ud558\uc138\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc81c\uc778: \ub124.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc74c... \ube44\uc601\ub9ac \ub2e8\uccb4\uc5d0 \uac00\uc785\ud558\ub294 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc774 \uadf8\ub807\uac8c \ud574\uc11c \ubd80\uc790\uac00 \ub420 \uc218\ub294 \uc5c6\ub2e4\ub294 \uc0ac\uc2e4\uc744 \uc6b0\ub9ac\ub294 \uc774\ubbf8 \uc54c\uace0 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc81c\uc778: \ub9de\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uadf8\ub807\ub2e4\uba74 \uadf8\ub4e4\uc740 \uc5b4\ub5a4 \uc704\ud5d8\uc744 \uac10\uc218\ud558\uace0 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\uae4c?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub7fc \ub204\uad6c\ub4e0\uc9c0 \ubb34\uc5c7\uc774\ub4e0 \uace0\uc18c\ud560 \uc218 \uc788\ub294 \uac70\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc74c-\ud760.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \ube44\uc601\ub9ac \ub2e8\uccb4\uc758 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uad6c\uc131\uc6d0\uc740 \uace0\uc18c\ub97c \ub2f9\ud560 \uc218\ub3c4 \uc788\uc5b4\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\ub530\ub77c\uc11c \uc77c\ubc18\uc801\uc73c\ub85c \ube44\uc601\ub9ac \uce21\uba74\uc5d0\uc11c\ub294 \uc704\ud5d8\uc774 \uc801\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ucc98\uc74c\uc73c\ub85c \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\uc5d0 \ud569\ub958\ud558\ub294 \uac83\uc744 \uace0\ub824\ud558\uace0 \uc788\ub294 \uc5ec\uc131\ub4e4\uc5d0\uac8c \ub610 \uc5b4\ub5a4 \uc870\uc5b8\uc744 \ud574\uc8fc\uc2dc\uaca0\uc2b5\ub2c8\uae4c?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ucc38\uc5ec \ubc29\ubc95\uc5d0 \uad00\ud574 \uc624\ub298 \ub9ce\uc740 \ub0b4\uc6a9\uc744 \ub2e4\ub8e8\uc5c8\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ud558\uc9c0\ub9cc \uc81c\uac00 \ud56d\uc0c1 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc5d0\uac8c \uc5b8\uae09\ud558\ub294 \ub450 \uac00\uc9c0 \uc0ac\ud56d\uc774 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \ub450 \ubc88\uc9f8\ub294 \uc778\ub0b4\uc2ec\uc744 \uac16\ub294 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc740 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uc9c1\uc704\uc5d0 \ub300\ud55c \uc57d\ub825\uc774\ub098 \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c \uc9c1\uc704\uc5d0 \ub300\ud55c \uc774\ub825\uc11c\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \uc5b4\ub514\uc11c \ubc30\uc6b0\ub098\uc694?<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc544\uc2dc\ub2e4\uc2dc\ud53c \uc800\ub294 Harvard School of Public Health\uc5d0 \ud504\ub85c\uadf8\ub7a8 \ub514\ub809\ud130\ub85c \ucc38\uc5ec\ud558\uace0 \uc788\ub294\ub370 \ubc18\ub098\uc808 \ub3d9\uc548 \uc57d\ub825\uacfc \uc774\ub825\uc11c\uc5d0 \ub300\ud574 \uc774\uc57c\uae30\ub97c \ub098\ub204\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ub530\ub77c\uc11c \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc774 \uc904 \uc218 \uc788\ub294 \ucd5c\uc120\uc758 \uc870\uc5b8\uc740 \uc774\ub97c \uc218\ud589\ud558\ub294 \ubc29\ubc95\uc744 \uc544\ub294 \uc0ac\ub78c\uacfc \uc774\uc57c\uae30\ub97c \ub098\ub204\ub294 \uac83\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc81c\uc778: \ub9de\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc2e4\uc81c\ub85c \uc774\uc0ac\ud68c\ub97c \uc704\ud574 \uc774\ub7ec\ud55c \uacb0\uc815\uc744 \ub0b4\ub9ac\ub294 \uc0ac\ub78c\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc81c\uc778: \ub9de\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc624, \uc774\ub7f0.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \uc800\ub294 \uadf8\ub140\uc5d0\uac8c \u201c\uadf8\uac74 \uc880 \ube7c\uc154\ub3c4 \ub3fc\uc694.\u201d\ub77c\uace0 \ub9d0\ud588\uc5b4\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \ub124.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: (\uc6c3\uc74c) \uc544\ubb34\ub370\ub3c4 \uac08 \uc218 \uc5c6\uc744 \uac83 \uac19\uc544\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \uc800\ub294 \uac1c\ub97c \uc0ac\ub791\ud558\uace0, \uc74c\uc545\ub3c4 \uc0ac\ub791\ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4\u2026<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uc751, \uc751.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: \ub9c8\uc9c0\ub9c9 \uc9c8\ubb38\uc774 \ud558\ub098 \uc788\uc2b5\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d8\ub80c \uc81c\uc778: \ub124\ud2b8\uc6cc\ud06c\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \ub124\ud2b8\uc6cc\ud06c.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\ub9ac\uace0 \ub610 \uc5b4\ub5a4 \uc720\ud615\uc758 \uac8c\uc2dc\ud310\uc5d0 \uad00\uc2ec\uc774 \uc788\ub294\uc9c0\uc5d0 \ub530\ub77c \ub2e4\ub985\ub2c8\ub2e4. \ucee4\ubba4\ub2c8\ud2f0 \uac8c\uc2dc\ud310\uc774\ub77c\uba74 \uc0ac\ub78c\ub4e4\uc774 \uadc0\ud558\ub97c \uc54c \uc218 \uc788\ub3c4\ub85d \ucee4\ubba4\ub2c8\ud2f0\uc5d0 \ucc38\uc5ec\ud574\uc57c \ud569\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uadf8\ub807\uc8e0.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \ub124\ud2b8\uc6cc\ud0b9\uc744 \ud1b5\ud574 \uc5bc\ub9c8\ub098 \uc790\uc8fc \uc5f0\uacb0\uc774 \uc774\ub8e8\uc5b4\uc9c0\ub294\uc9c0\ub294 \ucda9\uaca9\uc801\uc785\ub2c8\ub2e4.<\/p>\n<p>\uc5d0\uc774\ubbf8 \ubc88\uc2a4\ud0c0\uc778: \uc88b\uc544\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>ELLEN ZANE: \uadf8\uac74 \ub2f9\uc2e0\uc774 \ucc98\ub9ac\ud558\ub294 \uac8c \uc88b\uc744 \uac83 \uac19\uc544\uc694. \uc65c\ub0d0\ud558\uba74 \uadf8\uac74 \ub2f9\uc2e0 \ubb34\ub98e\uc5d0 \ub5a8\uc5b4\uc9c0\uc9c0 \uc54a\uc744 \ud14c\ub2c8\uae4c\uc694.<\/p>\n<p>AMY BERNSTEIN: Ellen, 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